October 18th, 2009, 10:57 am


  pmier747 says:                                                                                                          

The internet is a depressing place.

Over the last year or so this whole ‘asshole’ attitude seem to have spread in the Smackjeeves community or perhaps it’s just the spriter’s community, I do not really know. People seem to have adopted this idea that all humans are evil and stupid by nature and that they can be rude to people because they cannot do anything in return. The problem is, it’s true. People on the internet can be invincible assholes if they wish to be. I suppose it’s because people enjoy the internet arguments and the E-Drama that is causes.

People seem to get enjoyment from causing these arguments but to be perfectly frank it only annoys and depresses me. I feel sympathy for the poor victim does not fully realise what is happening and often gets driven of the site. Part of the problem is that people do not know that when they ask for criticism they are actually opening the flood gates to have an army of people point and poke at their flaws. I understand it when people getting defensive, it is because they do not expect all that criticism. There was a point myself where I thought I would respond positively to constructive criticism but I don’t, most people don’t it that feeling you get afterwards where you feel like you’ve wasted your time and that 50 meter list of things that need improvement that gets you down. What no one seems to relies is that when giving criticism there is a scale to it. You need to give it in tiny bite size portions or at least until they are confident enough to cope with more.

The most depressing part of the internet is that I cannot do anything about all this. I often can’t report people because everyone has already done a punishable offense and I don’t want everybody to get into trouble. I suppose this is part of why I’m writing this, it’s the only thing I can do to try and help the problem but I really wish I could do more sometimes. I’m fairly sure this is the kind of thinking that causes people to become supervillians.

On the other hand I’m really just writing this because I’m feeling down and need to rant and I this is the only place I feel comfortable to post this on.

Regular comics will resume shortly there are still a couple of things I need to sort out.
-Posted on October 18th, 2009, 10:57 am

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-Posted on July 23rd, 2018, 4:39 am

  Shadow Lugia says:                                                        

I have the slightest feeling that I may be the cause of some of the e-drama of this current era on sj. ^^' Meh. If I am, then let me emphasize that I really don't enjoy getting into heated arguments, but rather exposing lies and corruption. That whole Wave, and Shoku thing pissed me off to no avail as it did others, and people have been falsely spreading rumors that I'm a troll for exposing them. What am I able to do about it? Well, nothing really. People are entitled to their opinion, as am I.
-Posted on October 18th, 2009, 11:32 am

  Kris the Demon says:                                                        

I know the feeling. When I asked for a review of my comic from "Lets review shall we", the pure negativity of said review hit me like a truck. Now while I asked expecting a bad review and it did motivate me to improve, at first I didn't feel like I wanted to care any more. I don't think people understand that when they criticise. Rather than encouraging you to get better they're bashing you for doing stuff badly.

I apologise I appear to have almost started ranting myself.
-Posted on October 18th, 2009, 11:36 am

  pmier747 says:                                                        

I know that feeling. I used to think that I was good at taking criticism but really, I'm not. I often take criticism very personally even when I know I shouldn't.
Also feel free to rant. It sometimes feels good to get things of your chest.

@ SL
I realise that you and others are trying to find people with multiple accounts, but sometimes it's better to just leave it. It's often just people trying yo start again with a clean slate.
-Posted on October 18th, 2009, 11:54 am

  nduns says:                                                        

You know what's even worse? When someone flames you and labels it as criticism, as if they can justify being total dickheads by hiding behind the words "constructive criticism". What these people don't get is that there's a difference between criticism and flaming. Saying "This sucks" is flaming. Saying "This is good but needs work" is criticism. If people need to flat-out say "It sucks" they may as well be able to back it up with helpful advice otherwise they should just leave their hate comments to themselves.
-Posted on October 18th, 2009, 12:40 pm

  pmier747 says:                                                        

I have to agree with you on that. Sometimes people hide behind the façade of a critic to be blatantly rude to people, although sometimes it is constructive criticism but phrased unessecarily harsh.
-Posted on October 18th, 2009, 12:44 pm

  Afrohawkman says:                                                        
The Next Dr. ...?
Total agreement. It really sucks that the internet is so cruel and critical when someone messes up, or when all these people just gang up on someone for no reason. Like the whole "SJA" thing. That was completely unwarranted and people could've easily let it go, but they just don't. I guess what Anon says is true: Anon never forgives, and never forgets.

I don't know, the more time progresses, the more it seems we're getting out of hand. Some people actually support each other for flaming and hurting others, and even the nicest people can become jerks just for the moment. I really wish I could help sometimes too, at least be a role model or something, but it just doesn't take. Really is a shame.

Positive this isn't the reason you wrote this, but I wanted to say this and probably should say this more often:

I love this comic. It's funny, intelligent, has great graphics, and is just so unique compared to all the other comics I see nowadays. You can really see all the hard work put into it, and I applaud you for all your work. Keep it up.
-Posted on October 18th, 2009, 1:13 pm

  pmier747 says:                                                        

I think the most important thing is that we should always try to set a good example even if it doesn't stick. Be the change you want to see in the world.

Personally I still feel bad about the SJA thing. At one point I myself got involved trying to help but eventually I lost my temper, I know I wasn't the only one Shadow the Unborn was the same. I really wish Wave been driven out, but we can all learn from what happened.

Sometimes I don't think I fully appreciate my readers. I'm very lucky I never really had anyone horrible coming here. Everybody who posts here has always been brilliant.

Thank you very much for the comment you have no idea how happy I am to hear that. Sometimes I think I need to have more confidence in my abilities and just do it. I really think I should post more often after hearing this.I keep on starting to write a post saying something like "Great comic" and then close the box because I feel like I should write something more helpful or meaningful but that's ridiculous because it's always helpful knowing someone likes your work.

Sometimes I just over-think everything.
-Posted on October 18th, 2009, 1:44 pm

  FlyingMonkey says:                                                        

I agree with you DSM, I would have said more but everyone else pretty much covered it.
-Posted on October 18th, 2009, 5:17 pm

  Shadari Draconis says:                                                        

What I really hate is when it's someone who gives advice who really can't do the work themselves. I don't mind getting bashed on a little from people who actually know what they're doing, but when they don't have tangible proof that they know what they are doing then it's just n00bish behaviour. What I don't usually get is when a person asks for criticism, they instantly think that it'll come in a sugar coated package with toffee in the centre. I'm a writer, and I've been around. I've had my works both sugar coated and down-right bashed on. I know how it feels, and it doesn't feel ok. The better thing to do is, instead of trying to get rid of those who are the gits who bash on people, but educate those who might get bashed on. For if they realise this is coming, then they might avoid asking the general public for their opinion, or be able to handle it better when bullies rag-tag their work.
-Posted on October 19th, 2009, 11:04 am

  BurningLeo says:                                                        

I agree with all of the previous statements also.

I often get bashed about how my comics suck and everything. They think they're so great because they have all these flashy programs. I'm not the best comic maker or spriter but my comics, quality wise, are about as good as MS paint can do. My comics could be flashy if I had the tools but I don't and nobody understands that.

I once met someone who had a pretty bad comic. Basicly it was Sonic and a Silver recolor named Red in a white space. Red had only one shade recolored, the rest were Silver's original colors. Then a robot jumps on sonic's head, and he floats in mid-air, unconcious, while red slowly made a shield around him, which was just a single shade of green surrounding him. Then more robots come and Sonic lands on his feet after floating just above the ground, in just a single pose, after four panels. Then they blame the internet for the robots.

I told the author that it was ok but that it could be better if he had some backgrounds, jokes that made sense, finished the silver recolor, and made an actual story. I said that it had potential and was a good effort to start with. A month later he PMs me saying how harsh I was and told me that he's seen my comics and all of them suck and that I should try taking my own advice. I have never used white space for a background, when I used recolors I finished them before I used them, I don't break the forth wall, and I've always made sure that my comics make sense.

And the truth is that people think they can say whatever they want and as much as we don't like it, that's the truth. I like to think I can handle it but it still effects me and I'm not as resistent to it as I'd like to be.

I still have met extremely talented, yet nice people.

Sorry for ranting...
-Posted on October 23rd, 2009, 1:40 pm

  Grey_Wolf_Leader says:                                                        

People just don't get the fact that what they say WILL affect each others' feelings. That's why we have so much flaming and bashing around. As for myself, I say this comic is awesome, as are tons of others on this site. Is there room for improvement in them? Of course! But let's not forget that EVERYTHING in our world could use improvement. There is really no such thing as PERFECTION in anything humans make. We strive for perfection, but its always just barely out of reach.
-Posted on October 23rd, 2009, 2:55 pm

  ANT510 (Guest) says:                                                        

AMEN!!!! :D
-Posted on February 20th, 2011, 2:40 pm

  MarioGame64 says:                                                        
That was touching...
-Posted on July 8th, 2011, 10:25 am
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